What platform would you run Quetoo on if it was on Steam?:

Modeling and Mapping

June 23, 2008 - 00:49am

i model and map, i have only made maps for nexuiz, and quake3 based games,I would really like to make maps/models for q2w.

Questions about making q2w maps:

could someone post the .game and q2w.game folder here in a zip file, or a link? i cant find it anywhere :(

Is there a way to automatically apply the surfaceparm nodraw to common/caulk? it will get tiring adding the surfaceparm everytime i make a new brush instead of copy/pasting

how would i associate .pak files with winzip? can i use .pk3 files?

will md3 models work?

ill post more questions here if i think of some.

thanks :D

June 23, 2008 - 07:27am

Hey :)

Sorry we've been missing each other on IRC, but thanks for trying to idle there, and thanks for your interested in Q2W.

The GtkRadiant 1.5 configuration for Q2W lives in Subversion. Typically, you'd run a checkout at svn://quake2world.net, and you'd end up with the Radiant config in quake2world/gtkradiant. But to save you some time, I've created a temporary snapshot for you here: http://jdolan.dyndns.org/jaydolan/tmp/q2w-gtkradiant.zip.

SURF_NODRAW is automatically applied to common/caulk as well as common/trigger. You can view the other auto-detected flags here: http://jdolan.dyndns.org/trac/browser/quake2world/src/tools/q2wmap/map.c#L438.

Pak files are different from .pk3 files, and Q2W only supports .pak at this point. For a GUI .pak utility, I think Windows users generally like Pakscape. But q2wmap can also create .pak files for you when your map is complete. Simply run q2wmap -pak maps/my.map, and it will generate map-my.pak in your user-specific default directory.

The engine does fully support animated and static .md3 models. In the very near future (like this week), I'll add support for static map models, so you can drop .md3 trees, cars, etc into your levels. I'll catch up with you on IRC when that happens.

Hope this helps,


June 25, 2008 - 22:15pm

im guessing quake2world doesnt support curves?

June 26, 2008 - 17:46pm

Right, per our IRC discussion last night, the engine does not support curved patches. You can, however, apply a Phong shading technique to surfaces which should appear "curvy" using Radiant's surface inspector.


June 26, 2008 - 18:48pm

to support curves? I haven't got the slightest how hard that would be to implement, but im having a harder time making trim on the z-axis align day after day, its bearable though,.

June 26, 2008 - 23:10pm

Honestly, no, I don't have that planned yet. If we do decide that we want curves badly enough, we will probably abandon Quake2 BSP altogether and just use Q3 BSP. It's a superior format in several ways. I think to get something working would probably take me 2-3 days, a week or so to stabilize it and port over the materials system and things. The largest challenge would be to replace the cmodel code -- the renderer stuff actually doesn't scare me too much.


June 30, 2008 - 22:08pm

if q3map2 will be supported, would that mean patches will also?

wow@ the renderer, i hear messing with it really takes guts.,